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04 Nov 2025

Piers Morgan: I probably have calmed down a bit

Piers Morgan: I probably have calmed down a bit

Love him or hate him, it’s hard to ignore TV presenter, journalist and author Piers Morgan.

Whether he’s having a rant about Harry and Meghan, cosying up to Donald Trump, haranguing politicians or hobnobbing with celebrity pals including Dame Joan Collins and Gary Lineker, there’s never a dull moment for the ex-newspaper editor-turned-TV titan.

The outspoken presenter has gone his own way since leaving Talk TV (now known as Talk) last year, acquiring his own YouTube channel for his show Piers Morgan Uncensored, which has 4.2 million subscribers.

“The beauty of that is I’m now only accountable to myself and the only person that can fire me is me,” he says wryly.

He reckons he has probably mellowed a bit since his early days of broadcasting.

“I turned 60 in March, I probably have calmed down a bit. You mellow also with experience and wisdom, and also with the fact that I now own my own business, I’m my own boss, I’m not answerable to anybody else. I think that brings with it a certain calmness.”

Mellow, however, is not a word that springs to mind when reading his latest book Woke Is Dead – a sequel to Wake Up, which urged us all to kill off the scourge of wokeism.

In the new book he again rants about all the issues which wind him up, most notably transgender matters, cancel culture, free speech censorship, the demise of what he considers real men, ‘virtue-signalling’ vegans, climate activists and, of course, Harry and Meghan.

This time around though, the bullies who rail against free speech, the cancel culturists and ‘wokies’ have been kicked into touch by the voice of common sense from the people, he insists.

“Woke isn’t actually dead yet but I hope that my book will be the final nail in its miserable, joyless coffin. Wokeism as an ideology is just designed to suck all the joy out of life, from people who want to be hectoring and censorious and puritanical and cancel everyone for absolutely everything.

“I think that most people aren’t like that and they want to have a fun, fulfilling life.

“It doesn’t mean a licence to be cruel or hateful or bigoted but it does mean you want to be able to lead your life without treading on eggshells all the time.”

The book, which is a pretty exhausting read, highlights cancel culture crusaders that annoy him, the wokeism he considers ludicrous and damaging – and how the tide is turning.

He reckons that Donald Trump was re-elected because he “represented to American voters the core of common sense” and denies that being a friend of the president for many years – they met when Morgan won the US version of The Celebrity Apprentice in 2008 – has clouded his judgment.

“We’ve had good times and bad, we’ve fallen out a few times. I don’t hesitate to criticise him when I think he deserves it but I don’t agree with some of the more extreme MAGA crowd that he’s perfect and I don’t agree with the woke left view that he’s the devil incarnate and that he’s Adolf Hitler.

“There’s a more nuanced place you can be with Trump, that actually a lot of things he stands for are good things, whether that’s waging fewer foreign wars or having stronger borders, or being tougher on serious crime or paying less tax. I think all those things are things that most British people agree with.”

How close are they?

“We text each other every couple of weeks. He calls me every few weeks. He’s probably called me four or five times this year since he’s become president again. He’s a busy guy. But we always have good conversations and I appreciate the friendship.”

Morgan is notoriously thick-skinned. Every time his career has taken a knock, he bounces back. He’s been sacked twice – once as editor of the Daily Mirror in 2004 for refusing to apologise for publishing photos of British soldiers abusing Iraqi detainees that were widely believed to have been faked; again by CNN in 2014 for poor ratings on a primetime show.

In 2021 he famously stormed off set of Good Morning Britain following a row about his coverage of the Duchess of Sussex’s Oprah Winfrey interview. He left the show after refusing to apologise for calling her a liar. Now, it all seems like water off a duck’s back.

“I’m very thick-skinned, something I probably share with Trump, who is very mentally strong and resilient. I’ve had a lot of highs, a lot of lows and try and treat those two imposters the same, as the famous line goes.”

The former Britain’s Got Talent judge grew up in a country pub in East Sussex after the death of his father, an Irish dentist, when he was 11 months old. His mother Gabrielle went on to marry Glynne Pughe-Morgan, who he always refers to as ‘Dad’.

“We’re a big family with a lot of mentally strong characters, lots of forceful personalities, lots of opinions flying around, but we also have each other’s back.

“I was surrounded by mentally strong people who taught me the importance of being resilient and bouncing back from adversity and being tough about stuff and not wallowing in victimhood or self pity, because those are energy-sapping things which get you nowhere.”

He remains impervious to the toxic trolls, but listens when his mother and close family and friends pull him up when they think he’s stepped out of line.

“If my mother criticises me on something it always cuts quite deep because she is very supportive. If she thinks I’ve gone too far on something, that’s not a good moment.

“I’ve got great friends and family and what they think about me matters a lot more than some Twitter troll.”

He has three sons from a previous marriage and a 13-year-old daughter with his wife, journalist Celia Walden, to whom he’s been married for 15 years. They have homes in London and East Sussex,  and another in Beverly Hills.

Is he argumentative at home?

“Not really. I’m a much calmer individual at home. I think home should be an oasis from the jungle and the fray of media life because the media is always relentless.

“I enjoy it and it’s fun but I think when the door shuts I like to just put the telly on, watch a bit of Arsenal or a good movie or TV series and just chill, have a nice glass of wine and recharge.”

Does he ever apologise?

“Not really. I just think you should apologise if you really screw up and you genuinely mean it. Fake apologies are quite a common trait in the woke world. It’s a bit like when they have their hashtag BeKind in their bios and they are the least kind people I’ve ever met.”

Among his most memorable spats was with TV presenter Jeremy Clarkson in 2004, he recalls.

“He ended up punching me before we settled things at the British Press Awards. I’ve still got the scar on my forehead and it wasn’t entirely unjustified so I have no complaints about it, although I did think he had a very weak punch and he did break his finger hitting my head, which is quite satisfying.

“But he contacted me out of the blue and said, ‘Morgan, Clarkson here, drink?’ We met in my local pub and actually had a great night. He drank a lot of rosé, I drank a lot of beer. We got his daughter and one of my sons to act as the official peace treaty ratifiers and peace in our time was agreed.

“I mean, we’re never going to be best buddies but we now tolerate each other’s existence without wanting to punch each other, which I think is a major step forward.”

Woke Is Dead by Piers Morgan is published in hardback by HarperCollins, priced £22. Available now

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