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'Well said, Joe' - Tipperary teenager weighs in on heated housing debate on Katie Hannon
Joe Hawkins from Clonmel has been praised for his appearance on Monday night's show which discussed older people being pushed towards downsizing to free up homes for young families
'Well said, Joe' - Tipperary teenager weighs in on heated housing debate on Katie Hannon
Reporter:
Sandra Malone
29 Apr 2025 1:33 PM
A young man from Tipperary has received a lot of praise online for his appearance on Monday night's heated episode of Upfront with Katie Hannon which discussed whether older people should be encouraged to downsize to free up larger homes for young families amid the ongoing housing crisis.
Katie Hannon was joined by the Minister of State for Older People Kieran O'Donnell who advocates for the proposal as well as Sinn Féin Housing spokesperson Eoin Ó Broin TD, economist Dan O'Brien and journalist Valerie Cox on Monday night's show.
Young Joe Hawkins from Clonmel, who celebrated his 17th birthday on Monday, has stood out for his comments which stood firmly against the idea of older people downsizing as a way of fixing the housing crisis.
The Tipperary teenager told Katie: "I believe this isn't the right solution to the problem, the housing emergency that the government don't want to actually declare at the moment. I want to ask the Minister where does he actually propose to put the people that are going to downsize?
"Are they going to spend money on building smaller homes or would they not just spend money on building four-bed homes for families in need?
"Where I am in Clonmel in County Tipperary, they're building modular units Ukrainian asylum seekers and I'm all for humanitarian aid. I've a badge of equality here on my shoulder, but could they not put Irish people into these houses as well to integrate better into the community and to free up the housing emergency that they have at the moment."
A community activist in Clonmel, Joe concluded: "We can't apply pressure to the older generation and let them be tricked. This isn't just about policy it's about human decency to leave people make the decision themselves."
Indeed, this important question raised by Joe as to where older people who are meant to downsize are supposed to go continuously came up during the debate by panellists, those in the audience and on social media.
Joe's appearance on the show has received a massive response online, with one person saying: "Imagine being 17 and having the intellectual capacity of the entirety of the Dail combined. Very, very well spoken young man."
Another said: "Well spoken young man, some hope for our future." Someone else added: "More young people like you we need."
Many people have echoed the concerns raised by Joe, with the proposal being met with a lot of anger and backlash.
Minister O'Donnell defended the proposal on the show by saying he wants to provide choices for people on a voluntary basis and that there may have been a misinterpretation of this.
In terms of the housing crisis in Ireland, the Minister admitted that we do "have an emergency situation here."
The debate has stirred a massive response online, with one person simply saying: "What an absolutely useless response by this government to the housing crisis."
Another said: "Leave our parents alone. They bought their homes, they built a life in a community, how dare they be expected to give that up! It's their home. Leave them alone."
Someone else said: "No way should anyone have to leave their home. How dare they even come up with such an idea."
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